I will note there is absolutely no way graphene oxide, even if in solution - would be used in any of the conspiracy theories. If you actually had sheets of it or “wires” of it to remotely send signals through the material then the whole mouse thing you referenced is possible. It’s actually easier to imagine if you take a copper wire. We know we can transmit signals through a wire. Graphene is cool because you can make a microscopic wire to do similar transmission. That’s the mouse experiment.
BUT - in solution, that’s the equivalent of chopping up the wires into a zillion pieces and imagining that the vaccine somehow transmit something. Nonsense. The wire being chopped up doesn’t allow you to magically transmit along the wire. The same would be true of graphene oxide or any other microscopic wire technology.
The idea of making microscopic wires for transmitting signals in a way that doesn’t interfere with the operating of a muscle etc makes sense and could be used in the future - but that won’t be coming in the form of a liquid. And even if they want to sneak in a loose wire in solution - what good is a loose wire? It doesn’t do anything.
So, as a scientist - totally nonsensical as something being installed as a vaccine ingredient. Could it be implanted in other ways (surgically or otherwise) and maybe have some kind of use? Yes - I can see that. But regarding the vaccine - nothing here to worry about.
So I am going down the rabbit hole a bit. It is pretty hard to make a big sheet of pure graphene. It tends to fold, oxide, or just cross link. Using an oxide preparation is more stable, but still not easy. I
It was a big thing back in the day for nanotube theory. Basically the idea was to use graphene tubes to deliver small amounts of molecules to specific spots. When I was in the alternative energy game, there were experiments on using it for hydrogen fuel cells. Since I as bioenergy, I don' t remember what they were doing with it. Since that was a while ago, they may have figured out a better way to make it than the stuff an old college was cussing while I played with my yeastie beasties.
More recently, they are using some arrangements for landing luciferase.
And with that little tidbit, my wondering into the graphene rabbit hits the conspiracy theory. Remember our hosts talking about luciferase being in the shot and being used for something? If the rumors are true, graphene oxide lattices would be a way to do it.
Also, for some med guys more versed in bio chemistry than this wandering engineer, take a look here about some studies with graphene and prostate cancer.
Please note Nature and Science Direct are not Alex Jones type of places. Yes, they have blind spots and errors, but they are what the geeks speak to each other.
Graphene isn’t toxic. Graphene is literally carbon… that’s it. No different than charcoal. Graphene Oxide? Not something that makes sense to have in any medical sense. There’s no medical use for it. But graphene oxide is a carbon/hydrogen/oxygen compound - and can be toxic.
Carbon has four binding sites. Which makes it the best Lego in the box for chemistry. Graphene is a specific arrangement of carbon, like coal and diamond, that people have been hoping will make better conductors for wiring.
It is also flammable, brittle, and a pain to make.
The oxides can be just about anything added to the Lego structure. Even if it is just oxygen and hydrogen, well all hydrocarbons are just C, H. And O. Benzene for instance, and the little molecular beastie causes cancer.
But you can add other things to the graphene oxide to make your molecules do fun things.
Ok. I have to go to work now but I'm going down the graphene rabbit hole. It could be very toxic in an oxide arrangement
Gotta say, even with my XL tin foil hat that I wear sometimes, I didn't think about the Harris energy weapon deal as a way for Pelosi to move to the front of the line. Very interesting indeed. Enjoyed the podcast with morning coffees. Thanks!
Okay, since I said it, viruses mutate, so if you target one person's genetic makeup how do you stop it from going after offspring or siblings? My science is from reading journals and such. No degree and I not using the internet as a source.
I am going with the idea that Gates and the rest have forgotten that people can read and words are not hard to understand or grasp.
I am always open to learning new things and many of the points and such you and Jason bring up in your books have me going off down rabbit holes. Which makes me enjoy the work you guys do. Also a lot of the STRANGE COMPANY stuff had me doing the same.
Matches what I have seen in real life. If you have had covid, you probably won't get it. If you just have the vaccine, you may get it. If you don't have the vaccine, you may get it.
Regarding the Harris thing... we're trusting that she is actually sick and not just hiding and lying. That would be the simplest answer, Occom's Razor and all.
Who was the military analyst? John Robb from the Global Guerillas report? He’s excellent from an information warfare perspective and how narratives are being used.
Been following John for a loooooong time. His patreon is great and totally worth it, both for his analysis and the community/discord. Lot of like minded people sharing intel/analysis. Schappert needs to get back in the spotlight. You guys should podcast D&D games.
The Australian article we were discussing:
https://cairnsnews.org/2021/08/19/health-minister-hunts-family-involvement-in-graphene-and-vaccines/
I will note there is absolutely no way graphene oxide, even if in solution - would be used in any of the conspiracy theories. If you actually had sheets of it or “wires” of it to remotely send signals through the material then the whole mouse thing you referenced is possible. It’s actually easier to imagine if you take a copper wire. We know we can transmit signals through a wire. Graphene is cool because you can make a microscopic wire to do similar transmission. That’s the mouse experiment.
BUT - in solution, that’s the equivalent of chopping up the wires into a zillion pieces and imagining that the vaccine somehow transmit something. Nonsense. The wire being chopped up doesn’t allow you to magically transmit along the wire. The same would be true of graphene oxide or any other microscopic wire technology.
The idea of making microscopic wires for transmitting signals in a way that doesn’t interfere with the operating of a muscle etc makes sense and could be used in the future - but that won’t be coming in the form of a liquid. And even if they want to sneak in a loose wire in solution - what good is a loose wire? It doesn’t do anything.
So, as a scientist - totally nonsensical as something being installed as a vaccine ingredient. Could it be implanted in other ways (surgically or otherwise) and maybe have some kind of use? Yes - I can see that. But regarding the vaccine - nothing here to worry about.
You nailed it. While I haven't played with graphene, I do remember reading about it. However it is being used in DNA testing https://mappingignorance.org/2017/01/23/graphene-nanopore-dna-sequencing/
But I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory.
My thinking if this is a thing, it wasn't intentional
So I am going down the rabbit hole a bit. It is pretty hard to make a big sheet of pure graphene. It tends to fold, oxide, or just cross link. Using an oxide preparation is more stable, but still not easy. I
It was a big thing back in the day for nanotube theory. Basically the idea was to use graphene tubes to deliver small amounts of molecules to specific spots. When I was in the alternative energy game, there were experiments on using it for hydrogen fuel cells. Since I as bioenergy, I don' t remember what they were doing with it. Since that was a while ago, they may have figured out a better way to make it than the stuff an old college was cussing while I played with my yeastie beasties.
More recently, they are using some arrangements for landing luciferase.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-09890-y
As a tracker for gene therapy.
And with that little tidbit, my wondering into the graphene rabbit hits the conspiracy theory. Remember our hosts talking about luciferase being in the shot and being used for something? If the rumors are true, graphene oxide lattices would be a way to do it.
Also, for some med guys more versed in bio chemistry than this wandering engineer, take a look here about some studies with graphene and prostate cancer.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004565352032957X
Please note Nature and Science Direct are not Alex Jones type of places. Yes, they have blind spots and errors, but they are what the geeks speak to each other.
Graphene isn’t toxic. Graphene is literally carbon… that’s it. No different than charcoal. Graphene Oxide? Not something that makes sense to have in any medical sense. There’s no medical use for it. But graphene oxide is a carbon/hydrogen/oxygen compound - and can be toxic.
Carbon has four binding sites. Which makes it the best Lego in the box for chemistry. Graphene is a specific arrangement of carbon, like coal and diamond, that people have been hoping will make better conductors for wiring.
It is also flammable, brittle, and a pain to make.
The oxides can be just about anything added to the Lego structure. Even if it is just oxygen and hydrogen, well all hydrocarbons are just C, H. And O. Benzene for instance, and the little molecular beastie causes cancer.
But you can add other things to the graphene oxide to make your molecules do fun things.
Ok. I have to go to work now but I'm going down the graphene rabbit hole. It could be very toxic in an oxide arrangement
Gotta say, even with my XL tin foil hat that I wear sometimes, I didn't think about the Harris energy weapon deal as a way for Pelosi to move to the front of the line. Very interesting indeed. Enjoyed the podcast with morning coffees. Thanks!
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/why_joe_biden_cant_resign_or_be_removed__or_die.html
This seems to be something to consider
Unless he is an enemy combatant...... which some things I am following say he is.
Touche.
directed energy weapons have been well researched and used in the past. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon
Karren Traviss covers the issues of tailored viruses. She does an excellet job of pointing out the issues.
Okay, since I said it, viruses mutate, so if you target one person's genetic makeup how do you stop it from going after offspring or siblings? My science is from reading journals and such. No degree and I not using the internet as a source.
I am going with the idea that Gates and the rest have forgotten that people can read and words are not hard to understand or grasp.
Good. I like that. Good reasoning. Thank you.
I am always open to learning new things and many of the points and such you and Jason bring up in your books have me going off down rabbit holes. Which makes me enjoy the work you guys do. Also a lot of the STRANGE COMPANY stuff had me doing the same.
Well this isn't good!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/rise-in-covid-19-hospitalizations-of-pregnant-women-alarms-doctors/ar-AANH6eC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Australia has fallen
https://youtu.be/KvzZofCFM_8
Seems natural immunity works better.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-makary-says-natural-immunity-is-more-effective-then-vaccine-immunity/ar-AAMX3sM
Matches what I have seen in real life. If you have had covid, you probably won't get it. If you just have the vaccine, you may get it. If you don't have the vaccine, you may get it.
The Commie Pope and Orthodox Jews are fighting?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/jewish-bible-not-obsolete-rabbis-tell-pope-after-sermon-reignites-centuries-old-feud/ar-AANJXid?ocid=msedgntp
That is an old argument. Taken out of context (the rabbis).
Stop predicting stuff, Nick!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-officer-arrested-in-capitol-riot-asks-followers-to-rise-up-against-republicans/ar-AANJGMS?ocid=msedgntp
Right again!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/covid-protection-for-the-fully-vaccinated-is-waning-uk-study-finds/ar-AANJtfo?ocid=msedgntp
You called this one too!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-who-claimed-to-have-bomb-outside-capitol-diagnosed-with-bipolar-disorder/ar-AANK8VN?ocid=msedgntp
Regarding the Harris thing... we're trusting that she is actually sick and not just hiding and lying. That would be the simplest answer, Occom's Razor and all.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/oct/28/thisweekssciencequestions.weaponstechnology
Who was the military analyst? John Robb from the Global Guerillas report? He’s excellent from an information warfare perspective and how narratives are being used.
Been following John for a loooooong time. His patreon is great and totally worth it, both for his analysis and the community/discord. Lot of like minded people sharing intel/analysis. Schappert needs to get back in the spotlight. You guys should podcast D&D games.